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karen the healer · Dec 21, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Can Kerian be placed or scanned in to the Hall of Monuments Fellowship Monument as a Hero? I tried but it did not work. Does he take some special armour reminant or something? If this has been asked before, forgive me.

Aycee · Dec 21, 2010, 09:41 PM // 21:41

No, he can not.

Gabriel of Ravn · Dec 21, 2010, 09:42 PM // 21:42

My guess is since he was just added as a hero they haven't added support for him to be placed in HoM. Not that I've tried I just keep hearing people complain about this and this is the first logical conclusion I came to.

Acehole2006 · Dec 21, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

People complain but im 99% sure that this is what they intended to happen, no support or armor upgrades.

Edo123 · Dec 21, 2010, 10:44 PM // 22:44

He can't be added atm, but in future GW prolly give him some updates so he MIGHT just MIGHT get be allowed to be put in HoM ^^

FoxBat · Dec 21, 2010, 11:58 PM // 23:58

More like YOU will be placed in Keiran Thackeray's Hall of Monuments.

dasmitchies · Dec 22, 2010, 01:16 AM // 01:16

It is irrelevant. HOM calculator maxes with the other heroes.

*Darcy* · Dec 22, 2010, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Does he have an armor upgrade available? You can't add any hero unless you have upgraded their armor.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 22, 2010, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by Darcy

Does he have an armor upgrade available? You can't add any hero unless you have upgraded their armor.

MOX doesn't have an armor upgrade, yet is able is be added to the HoM. And no, he doesn't have any armor upgrades. When/if he's addable, he'll be listed in the HoM calculator.

caballo_oscuro · Dec 22, 2010, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

MOX doesn't have an armor upgrade, yet is able is be added to the HoM. And no, he doesn't have any armor upgrades. When/if he's addable, he'll be listed in the HoM calculator.

From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/MOX#Armor :

"Unlike other heroes, M.O.X. has no alternate armor sets. Its default armor set is already a prestige armor set, since a statue for M.O.X. becomes available in the Hall of Monuments when M.O.X. is unlocked. "

But there hasn't been any mention that Keiran will ever be added to the HOM. The calculator is still officially in beta though so it might still change. The idea of the fellowship monument was that you could display your favourite heroes so it's still possible it'll be added in the future...

FengShuiDove · Dec 22, 2010, 02:00 AM // 02:00

I wouldn't expect anything from this point forward to be included in the HoM. If we get new armors, weapons, heroes, etc., from Winds of Change or future GW:B stuff, I wouldn't expect it to go in the HoM.

SpyderArachnid · Dec 22, 2010, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Gotta remember that the HoM Calculator is in beta stages at the moment still. So it is subject to change.

So if they do add more stuff in the future, it could be likely that they do add it to the HoM.

dancing gnome · Dec 22, 2010, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

MOX doesn't have an armor upgrade, yet is able is be added to the HoM. And no, he doesn't have any armor upgrades. When/if he's addable, he'll be listed in the HoM calculator.

It's a weird situation they created. They made MOX before the calculator came out and he was able to be added, then when they made the caculator count him they hadn't yet decided Keiran would become a hero.

It would be so clean and simple if MOX was never allowed to be added to the HoM (seeing as you don't actually do anything to get him, let alone use a hero armour on him).

As far as people saying it maxes without Keiran... there are many monuments which max without adding everything possible... in fact the hero monument is the only one which required one of every hero at the time to be added (technically it didn't count all possible hero armours though, just as long as each hero had at least one). I think the monouments are there own assets and it would bother me if they had to dedicate considerable time to create one for Keiran just so he could be added (it also sets a precent for players to constantly expect future heroes to be counted by the HoM).

If they do make Keiran count for a monument I hope they just create some generic monument which could be applied to all future heroes (I'm assuming hero monuments take considerable time which could be better spent elsewhere).

Exhibit A · Dec 22, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57

I doubt making a statue would take a huge amount of time. It's not like they're creating an entirely new model, just applying a new texture to the Keiran model, scaling it up, and posing it.

*Darcy* · Dec 22, 2010, 04:35 PM // 16:35

M.O.X. doesn't wear any armor so therefore couldn't have an armor upgrade. I don't see Keiran running around naked, so I would believe he might have an armor upgrade.

FoxBat · Dec 22, 2010, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Darcy

M.O.X. doesn't wear any armor so therefore couldn't have an armor upgrade. I don't see Keiran running around naked, so I would believe he might have an armor upgrade.

Oh come on. You can't think how a mechanical construct might be *upgraded*?

The bottom line is they didn't want to design an alternate look for Mox, who was basically a replica of existing golem models. They already made alternate colorations to cover the avatars. To be distinct yet again from that, they'd actually have to alter his model - much as armor does for players. Not only that, but they they have to establish which NPC he gets his upgrades from and with which armor type.

If Keiran does get some prestige armor, it's probably going to be some existing player armor or #$! costumes - keep in mind the latter is the only thing they get to borrow artists for from the GW2 team. This they can do easily because like most humans, his skeleton is the same as a certain player class. Maybe it's part of their plan for WoC rewards, as it's implied WoC will also be offering more hero(s).

MisterB · Dec 23, 2010, 06:06 AM // 06:06

This link is relevant to this thread.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...ckeray_and_HoM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Stumme

He'll go in there at some point. Technically, the Thackenator already has alternate armor sets ready to go (Groom, Battle Damaged) but the limitation is that we don't have art for him to appear as a statue, and the HoM calculator/site would need to be updated to account for him being there.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 23, 2010, 06:33 AM // 06:33

so the answer is :
at this time you can not add him,
this may change in the future.

dancing gnome · Dec 23, 2010, 10:45 AM // 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

so the answer is :
at this time you can not add him,
this may change in the future.

I think "He'll go in there at some point," means it will change in the future. I wonder if they will allow us to get his old hair style in addition to his wet dog look or tuxedo.

As much as I like his new look I liked the old one.

Sarevok Thordin · Dec 23, 2010, 10:49 AM // 10:49

I doubt he'll be added, the HoM calculator is kinda completed for that monument, unless they just want to make it easier.